“What Is Enlightenment” - by Hans Christian King Spiritual Radio Show Transcription

“What Is Enlightenment” - by Hans Christian King 

Spiritual Radio Show Transcription

GUIDANCE FOR YOUR LIFE Radio Show

with Hans Christian King www.HansKing.com

and Alfred Ricci www.AlfredRicci.com

Topic: What Is Enlightenment

June 6, 2014

Alfred:

Hello everyone and welcome to GUIDANCE FOR YOUR LIFE. As you all know we are back in the U.S. and broadcasting from Asheville, North Carolina up in the mountains of The Blue Ridge Parkway. And of course now that we're back in the U.S. if you happen to be in the area and you wish to meet with us - either take an Automatic Writing Course from myself or meet with Hans Christian King -  please contact us through the website.  Also we're going to be attending a Spiritual Fair, July 12th, at the Masonic Temple in Asheville, North Carolina. And to round out our announcements, Hans is on about 4 or 5 interviews, tele-seminars. If you want to listen to those, please check out our brand new Newsletter that we just sent out a couple of days ago and you can find that under "Spiritual Community" under our Newsletter. And if you're not on our Newsletter, please join us. You can join our Newsletter, we send out one email a month, we never share your information. You can go to HansKing.com and on the bottom right hand side you can "Join Our Newsletter" and find out what's going on and get free stuff. We usually include a free audio lesson if you're in our Newsletter and find out what other free stuff that we're giving away.

Hans:

I like free stuff Alfred.

Alfred:

Yes, lots of free stuff.

Hans:

I like that.

Alfred:

Lots of free stuff on HansKing.com actually. On the top it says "Free Stuff". And there's a lot of free stuff in there.

Hans:

There's a lot of power in free stuff I think.

Alfred:

Yes. Our job is to be of service. We're not here to make money. 

(Alfred and Hans Laughing)

Hans:

And that's born out so far so that's a good thing.

Alfred:

We're still doing okay so thanks for being there and listening to us. So again this is Alfred the young Padawan Learner to the Modern Day Mystic himself and we have a very enlightened topic today. This was sent in from two different people. One was our good friend from Colorado who sent in a question about this last night and also our newly indoctrinated youngling Esperanza in San Francisco. The topic of today is "What Is Enlightenment". So without further ado I present the Modern Day Mystic himself Hans Christian King.

Hans:

Good afternoon everybody. Welcome, welcome, welcome. What a subject. What a topic. "What Is Enlightenment". Wow. One of the most asked questions in the human scene is: What “is” enlightenment? Enlightenment comes in several different ways on several different paths. I believe, and my Guidance confirms because they told me - that enlightenment is the unburdening of the human scene. The letting go of the appearance of what your mind perceives as reality. Seeing past judgments, seeing past fear, seeing past confusion and doubt to simply "being". When you learn how to "be in the moment", then you stop seeking after what you don't understand and you accept: Aah, I am simply here and that is all there is for now. So enlightenment is the unburdening of perception. It's the lack, the absence if you will, of mind chatter. When you unburden yourself one drop at a time, you can feel enlightenment beginning to take hold. Alfred any comments so far on what we're talking about?

Alfred:

Well I'm going to give a couple of light examples of what enlightenment is. And if you just look at the word - the first one enlightenment - I like to look at it to "become lighter". And what happens every time you have an epiphany, you have an Ah-Ha moment, you have a breakthrough, you let something go... You feel "lighter", okay. And the second thing is, we had an example a couple of times we told you about protecting yourself, creating mind chatter is like: It rains I'm going to hold up an umbrella. Oh, it rains I'm going to hold up an umbrella. It rains, I'm going to hold up an umbrella. Why don't I just leave the umbrella up and then you wonder where did the sun go? Why isn't there any sun? Why doesn't the sun shine on me? So by letting go of your umbrella that's protecting you, by letting go of those things that protect you you let the “light” in. So those are my two examples of enlightenment. So I've got a good question for you Hans.

Hans:

Yes.

Alfred:

And this is something I thought about when I was first starting. 

Hans:

Um hm-mm.

Alfred:

Our people had asked us: Is enlightenment a destination or is it a spiritual awakening process?

Hans:

Aaahhh. Enlightenment is never a destination. It is a “happening”. Because each person enlightens themselves hopefully in their lifetime a bit differently. Spirit tells me that the lesson of enlightenment is the path "to" enlightenment. It's the recognition if you will of what is keeping you burdened, what's keeping you down, what's weighing on you. So the unburdening of “yourself” is the attempt of your soul to literally "lighten" or "enlighten" yourself. So it's not so much Alfred the destination in this case as it is the journey of awareness.

Alfred:

I like to actually think of enlightenment as the very first time you say: There has to be something else. There has to be something more. And you start looking for something more and then when you first hit that very first thing and you say: Aaaaahhhh, Whoa, that's pretty cool! That's at the point where I think your enlightenment journey begins and that you become more enlightened as you continue on this path of doing the inner work and letting go. So on the question of is enlightenment an end point or is the journey of awakening, I think we both agree that it's the beginning of awakening, it is the journey of awakening, it is the process of awakening.

Hans:

To strive to want to become enlightened is in fact an enlightening moment. Because it sets an intention. We are so, Alfred, caught up in the appearance of the drama of our human scene that we actually whenever the light tries to shine into us we block it off. We say: Oh well you know I don't know about that. You know this sounds too complicated and my drama is real because I can feel that it's real. I know some of you, my dear friends out there, have been planting your garden and planting your yard for the summer and fall and getting excited about your plants. I put my tomato cages up today, I actually installed 3 little tomato bushes which are now ten times the size they were when I put them in. And this year I'm not going to have an expectation of them. I'm going to just tell them to do whatever makes you feel best. And I want you all to do the same thing to yourself. Stop setting all these expectations of enlightenment and just do one day at a time. And in that day find one thing that weighs heavily on your heart, just one thing, a memory perhaps, a sense of not being heard, a sense of frustration. Now just take that one thing and say to Spirit: I choose to enlightenment myself today by disengaging from this thought any longer. Alfred?

Alfred:

And that's a good example of trying to help people...one of the main issues of spirituality verses humanness is you can't approach spirituality the way you approach humanness. Humanness is all about attaining, getting, accomplishing and one of the questions that was sent in was: What does it mean to attain enlightenment? And what we're trying to tell you is you don't attain enlightenment. It never finishes...

Hans:

No.

Alfred:

...it is the journey.

Hans:

This is why I removed the term “destination” Alfred.

Alfred:

Okay. So in terms of what does it mean to attain enlightenment, it doesn't. It means that you have “begun” to awaken, you have “begun” to do the inner work, you are on a path of “enlightenment”, you are on an “enlightened path” and every time you go back to the Other Side you're going to review how you do on that “enlightened path”. But what we're trying to tell you is...okay, unless you're Hans King...

Hans:

Hey watch it...

Alfred:

...you really don't attain enlightenment. Again one of the most basic spiritual practices is that it's not about the destination, it's about the journey. And that has to do with enlightenment also. It's about the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first step. And it is about that journey, how you carry yourself. So that’s our view on attaining enlightenment. And another question is: Can you tell when you “are” enlightened? What do you think about that Hans?

Hans:

I think that's wonderful. What does it mean to attain enlightenment? It means not to worry anymore. Not to keep setting expectations of things that you simply don't know. That's hard. That's not easy to do. We have this deep seated human needs for things to show up in our expectation so that we can prove that God loves us so we can prove that we're on the right track. Enlightenment comes from a quiet knowing. All is well. I'm on my path. Regardless of how I perceive the path to be, my god knows I'm on the path. Just before Maya Angelou passed away two weeks ago she had emailed two days before and talked about perhaps we need to stop looking outwards and we needed to start looking inwards. And that perhaps if we did that we just might meet and find ourself. This is what I'm trying to say. Enlightenment is not something Alfred where you turn a certain corner and there are banners and headlines and bands and whistles and all of these things. No, no, no. There's no reward at the top of the mountain. It was, like you were saying, it was the “process of letting go of what doesn’t work for you anymore”. And fear and doubt for you very old souls, and I've talked to most of you, so you very old souls remember something: That you're not alone. No matter what your thinking may say to you. Walk in the light towards the light. For those of you who are putting in a garden like I am, remember something – you're  giving life to something - be with that life. And as the plants, the flowers begin to prosper, grow, bloom and produce fruit, so will you. Okay?

Alfred:

And the biggest question Hans everybody's been asking is: Is there a path to enlightenment? And I think people maybe just don't understand the words because explaining God in human terms is rather difficult... 

Hans:

Well you can't actually do it.

Alfred:

You can't really do that. But basically the path to enlightenment, your enlightenment journey is assisted by what we teach you every single week. What others teach you.

Hans:

And anything we keep pounding them on the head with.

Alfred:

The basics as we like to call it, any of the lessons that we give you give you help you on your personal journey...

Hans:

Yes.

Alfred:

...on your personal spiritual path.

Hans:

So is there a path to enlightenment? Yes, learning how to just “be”. Now that's not the answer you want most of you. I understand that. Learning to shut off the mind chatter which is constantly running with judgment, perception, anger, resentment, fear, doubt, all of these things - shut that off. Simply shut them off. That is enlightenment. Having no judgment of other people is enlightenment. Actually hearing the wind in the trees is enlightenment. Learning to love yourself is enlightenment. Each and every one of you can get to that place of enlightenment by simply learning: You already are enough for God. You see? Sometimes we're going about our daily life and a friend says: Oh, I hear there's this great movie over here. And you say: Okay, well let's go to the movie. And you go to the movie, you get all involved in the movie, and the scenes and the acting and all of that... But is that who you are, the movie? No. You get up, put your coat on, go back outside into your daily life. This is what you do when you come here. Is you come here to watch a movie of which you participate in. But is it who you are? No. Who you are is that baby angel I've been talking to you about for many, many years. That's who you are. That's who God sees. And that God that loves you so holds no judgment of you whatsoever. So enlightenment comes from learning how to be, learning to be still, and listen to the love...witness the love of who you are in your own heart. Yes, Mr. Alfred.

Alfred:

There are many teachers that take many, many different paths to help you understand what is a path to enlightenment. And the first thing we try to emphasis, we believe everybody should emphasis, that your path to enlightenment is going to be different than anyone else's path to enlightenment.

Hans:

Yes, emphasize that again.

Alfred:

Okay. Your unique path to enlightenment is going to be different than anyone else's. Why? Because your dharma, your path in life is comprised of all of your other lives, all of your karma, all of your experiences in this life. Everything you wanted to experience, the individual people that you wanted to experience them with. Yes, everybody's a human soul having a human experience but “what” you wanted to experience and how you wanted to experience it, and the lessons you wanted to learn, and the experiences that you wanted to have while down here are unique to you. Thus your specific path to enlightenment is going to be unique to you. And that's why we like to say: We'll help as much as we possibly can but please feel free to look up other methods, other teachers, so you can find what works for you and our teachings. Find the specific teachings that work for you.

Hans:

It's like going to a Chinese Restaurant Alfred. Ordering something out of Column A, Column B.

Alfred:

Um hmm.

Hans:

But remember, no teacher, that includes me, no teacher holds all you need to hear. That's impossible. But what they do have is the wisdom of their experience, their connection with Spirit, their connection with God, and what they know works for them. And if this helps you, wonderful. But remember, every teacher no matter who they are, has a limit. And they themselves are busy enlightening themselves. And the more they enlighten themselves the more they can share with you. I have been on this path now as you know for in excess of 55 years so I have been blessed to be on a path that has served me very well, allowed me to serve others. But, as Alfred says we also recommend that you look beyond our limitations if you find something that's important to you, add it to your repertoire of understanding. I think that's the way to go. Mr. Alfred?

Alfred:

And taking that into account here's a good question: How does the lesson of self esteem help you on your enlightened path?

Hans:

Oh, Alfred it's enormous. Very good. I don't know who sent that in but that's great.

Alfred:

Okay and Hans has been talking about with old souls that one of their primary lessons is self esteem. Hans what's your opinion on self esteem and an individual's spiritual path?

Hans:

Well as I've often said to you Alfred and to the audience, all old souls primary lesson is self esteem or the value of their own soul. Understanding that is one thing. Living it is something entirely different. Self esteem, being and accepting that you are the best you can possibly be already, that no experience is going to make you a better person to Spirit. You will have your own enlightenment journey but that's a separate process. Self esteem - being equal to the value of your own soul - is key in enlightenment. Because once you accept you as being the primary source of enlightenment in your life, you are that source of enlightenment. In other words, when you seek you will find, always. So allowing yourself to love yourself, to accept yourself...I want to say jumps you light years ahead in your enlightenment process. Becoming enough is very important Alfred.

Alfred:

And it really is important because we're going to try to emphasis to you that no two paths are the same which means when you start your spiritual journey, when you start your path to enlightenment, you may find yourself many times alone on a unique path with possibly no other people around you.

Hans:

Yes, isn't that wonderful...

Alfred:

So you may have other spiritual people around you but your unique path may from time to time take you to places where you are alone. And if you learn the lesson or are working on the lesson of self esteem that you yourself are enough, that you have confidence in yourself, that you trust yourself, that you trust your Guidance, that is really going to help you on your unique path. So they actually go hand in hand. The further you go down the rabbit hole of enlightenment the further you're going to find yourself away from the norm, further on a unique path and relying on the strength of your soul, the confidence in your soul, and your trust, faith and belief in God.

Hans:

So in other words, the more you let go, the more you refuse to listen to the mind chatter... I did something the other day folks, please find the humor in it. But the Fox Channel at MSNBC, my radio and my TV are very close to each other and often I will bounce back and forth for about a half hour listening to the rhetoric on both sides. And I have to say this to you: There's a lot of anger in this world. A lot of frustration. But if you watch that type of thing, you literally pollute your own mind. We're going to be dealing with this in another show about mind pollution. Learning not to put your mind to the task of trying to understand something that doesn't make any sense in the first place I think is very important. Alright Alfred I think that concludes the lesson for today unless you have any parting words of wisdom.

Alfred:

No, that's it for now. I think this is a wonderful topic...

Hans:

It is indeed...

Alfred:

...to help people understand.

Hans:

And I thank Alfred everybody who helped with these issues. Thank you Nancy and of course another lady in San Francisco, she helped with these, Esperanza. So I thank both of you for bringing these to our attention.